Lady Phyll: You’ve done so much brilliant work. Tell me what was the catalyst behind setting up Trans Pride?
LUCIA: For me the early years of transition, were just so tough. I felt so low, I always just felt so alone. I didn't really know many other trans people. And I didn't really talk about afterwards, they were really dark times. I was actually suicidal a lot of the time. And I’d just sit in my bedroom do makeup, wear women's clothes and then take the makeup off, get back in bed and go to sleep. I then moved to London and after a while, I started to make trans friends. And then when I’d see people who were just starting to transition themselves, I kept thinking I didn't want them to go through what I went through when I transitioned. I kept thinking I don’t want people who are exploring their gender identity to feel like they don't have people that are just like them, and they don't have people to rely on. I thought how can I get as many transgender people together to prove that we're not alone.
LADY PHYLL: I guess people don't often get a chance to share their experiences of where they felt isolated, and lonely. Do you think the LGBT+ community is inclusive of trans people?
LUCIA: I’d say queer communities are inclusive of trans people. But more mainstream gay communities really have abandoned trans people. If we look at RuPaul’s Drag Race, which is commercialised drag; how many openly trans women have ever been on it? If you go into the real drag world, it's ruled by trans drag queens. It’s amazing that RuPaul taught the world about drag but it’s completely erased trans women, and no one cared. We have hate groups run by lesbian, gay and bisexual people. It's time that the rest of the LGBT community doesn't forget about the ‘T’. It's about solidarity, we’re all stronger together, you know? We’d never have got gay liberation without unity in the beginning. We need unity now.
LADY PHYLL: I want to say to you, that you're definitely not alone. And from me to you, we will never leave our trans siblings because our fight for equality, justice and freedom has to include all of us otherwise, it's not justice.