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Tough conversations. With even tougher people

Three episodes. Three guests. And three powerful conversations taking centre-stage.

For Dr. Martens Netherlands, journalist Jill Mathon, writer Bo Hanna, and former Night Mayor of Amsterdam Shamiro van der Geld co-host a special mini-series of the DM’s podcast, Talking Tough. The empowerment platform built for rebels. For those who were told ‘no’ but did it anyway. And did it their way. Check out the video preview and episodes in full below.

Please note, every episode is recorded in English.

MASSIH HUTAK: This land is for everyone

From Afghanistan to Amsterdam, talking community building, gentrification and upholding authentic cultures.

TIM WES: Music means identity

The R&B and soul singer on the fight to showcase new forms of creativity and believing in art as an act of resistance.

NAOMIE PIETER: Behind the megaphone

Activism, self-care and overcoming adversity from the founder of Black Queer and Trans Resistance.

Listen to stories you won’t hear on the radio, or head back to DM’s Presents for more.